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Cross Roads Podcast
Navigating Layoffs: How to Turn Career Crisis into Opportunity
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The dreaded pink slip – that moment when your professional world suddenly turns upside down. In this compelling episode of Money Moves, host Steven Killfoil shares his personal layoff story from 2015, revealing how what initially felt like a career disaster ultimately became his greatest blessing.
Guest Foster Williams, a career transition expert with over 26 years of experience helping job seekers, cuts through common misconceptions about the modern job search. The most powerful revelation? Your next position likely won't come from endlessly scrolling job boards in your pajamas – it comes through strategic networking and personal connections.
Williams takes listeners behind the scenes of successful job hunting, explaining why the traditional "pray and spray" resume approach fails most candidates. He reveals how networking groups like the South Lake Focus Group and Frisco Connect have helped thousands land positions by providing comprehensive support systems, practical training, and access to vast networks of professionals who "know somebody who knows somebody."
The conversation tackles real challenges job seekers face: poorly prepared interviewers, outdated job descriptions, and the subtle but persistent issue of ageism. Williams offers practical wisdom for navigating these obstacles while highlighting why the fourth quarter presents unique opportunities as companies rush to utilize remaining budgets.
Whether you're currently between positions or simply preparing for future career transitions, this episode delivers actionable strategies and much-needed encouragement. The message is clear: with the right approach and support system, a layoff can become the catalyst for something far better than what you left behind.
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Crossroads Podcast welcomes you to Money Moves for those who want to be in the know. Good morning, Cross Roads. This is your host, Steven Killfoil. Welcome back to Money Moves Now. Today's topic is something many people never think will happen to them until it does. Getting laid off. I can tell you all about that. This happened to me back in April of 2015. And at the time, I didn't think it was any fun, but I'm looking back now, it was a blessing in disguise. It's stressful, it's emotional, and sometimes it feels like your whole world just flipped upside down. But there are smart steps you can take to get back on track quickly.
Steven Killfoil:To walk us through it, I've got someone who knows this world inside and out oh, foster williams me yes foster's been helping people in career transition for years and is deeply involved in support groups like the south lake focus group, which was a godsend to me when that layoff did happen we just had it this morning, absolutely, hey, foster, thanks for coming on the show today. Thanks for having me, you are welcome. So if we do this right, maybe you'll actually laugh a little bit while we talk about layoffs
Foster Williams:That's me. I'll always laugh.
Steven Killfoil:That's the goal, because if we can't laugh about it, we just cry.
Foster Williams:Yeah
Steven Killfoil:And nobody wants to hear us do that for 25 minutes.
Foster Williams:Yeah, those know. There's an incentive to get into anything. There's not some fun in it
Steven Killfoil:Absolutely yeah, um back, uh, back in April of 2015. I literally had been working for nine years for this company. I'm not going to say who they are yeah, but I was in the procurement group. I had saved this company over $750,000 annually.
Steven Killfoil:I'd cut their budgets, trimmed the vendors down, from 225 down to 25
Foster Williams:I did some of that you know
Steven Killfoil:I thought I was doing a pretty good job, you know, and I got them what they wanted when they wanted it. On the fly, fast, you know, I found where some vendors were doing stuff that they shouldn't have been doing and called them on the carpet. So I thought, boy, my job's pretty much secure Not you and I found out one thing People in general don't like smart people, and they get jealous.
Foster Williams:Oh yeah,
Steven Killfoil:they get angry and they get rid of you.
Foster Williams:Yeah, they get rid of you, yeah.
Steven Killfoil:So a lot of times it's interesting because my wife was telling me. She said yeah, in my country, when you have somebody that's really smart like that and you want to get rid of them, you just promote them, yeah. And she said that's how they get rid of them. A nd, she said it's very sad but very true.
Foster Williams:There was a time I saw some of that way back in the day
Steven Killfoil:So you know, just because you're an intelligent person doesn't necessarily guarantee you, uh, a grounded, solid position at that company.
Steven Killfoil:I knew many people who actually thought. One in particular was the vice president. He swore and told everybody I can never be fired. They guaranteed me my job for life.
Foster Williams:Oh really,
Steven Killfoil:He was one of the last ones to go. I actually met South Lake Focus Group, oh yeah. So I was like I thought you said you couldn't be fired and he's, I don't want to talk about it, yeah, yeah.
Foster Williams:So we got a handful of VPs and CEOs and CFOs and see all these, see Dick run, see spot jump.
Steven Killfoil:It's crazy, it's crazy. Okay, so let's set the scene. You've just been laid off Right. What's the first thing most people do?
Foster Williams:wrong. Well, one thing they do is panic and they get on. Oh, I got to apply for jobs and I got to get on the computer and do all this stuff and you will do that. But what we want people to know is that there's somewhere you can go and meet other people. That knows, everybody knows somebody. There's somewhere you can go and start what we like to call networking steve and I call it networking. Yes, and that's what it is. You basically get out and and meet other people, be yourself, enjoy yourself but you might want to have some food and all that kind of stuff and enjoy yourself and meet other people.
Steven Killfoil:Let it flow yeah, definitely, and a lot of people make the mistakes I know I did until I met the group. You know, I just took out and threw out as many resumes oh man, on, indeed that I
Foster Williams:Spray, and pray is what we call it.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, and it didn't work.
Foster Williams:No, it don't work.
Steven Killfoil:No, it did not work, uh, until I met you guys and you got my resume squared away and then it looked 100% better. It's the one I still have today, but I've added a few more things to it since then. But sure you know. But if you don't know what you're doing and you're just out there, like you just said, trying to throw a hail Mary yeah, flailing.
Steven Killfoil:Just it's terrible, you know. So they do that. Then they start sitting at home. They're feeling sorry for themselves, so they begin. Been binge watching tv, you know, wow, and I haven't seen colombo in so long, and now I've got all the episodes and, oh yeah, we got streaming tv now, so we get all kind of channels right, yeah, it says so. Nothing says job ready like eating ice cream out of the carton while watching csi miami oh man, you know I've done that.
Foster Williams:That's interesting, you brought that up. I've done that before I'm guilty too, man.
Steven Killfoil:Netflix came out and I hopped on board and I was like um, I think one of my most entertaining shows that I saw on on the netflix was one called uh, once upon a time. Oh, what was that about? Well, this gentleman director, he took all of the fairy tales, all the grimm's fairy tales oh yeah all the disney characters, wizard of oz, and he threw them all together in this show so that you, you, you saw peter pan, you saw captain hook, you saw beauty and the beast.
Steven Killfoil:I mean uh my god or garrison keeler yeah, uh, the, the fellow that used to spin gold out of straw uh rumpleiltskin.
Foster Williams:He was on there.
Steven Killfoil:In fact, he was the evil bad guy in it. And the wicked witch that was the mother to Snow White was the second in charge, and I mean, the whole thing was just riddled with it, and they'd cast this gigantic evil spell on all these characters, wiped their memories so they didn't even remember who they were or what they did characters wiped their memories so they didn't even remember who they were or what they did really, and they were all living in this little town in ohio in america, in the shoe right, all of them.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, little red riding hood she was running around turning into werewolf herself and grandma and oh man, geppetto was there hey modern technology.
Steven Killfoil:Jiminy cricket was in human form and I mean just, the whole thing was just a riot. I just and it was you had to keep watching it because each week they would reveal a new character. Oh, it was great, but it was a huge time waster, oh yeah, that's what it's there for made me feel good, but in the I still didn't have a job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do not think that Indeedcom is going to come knocking on your door, because that doesn't happen.
Foster Williams:No, they don't come find you anymore, like they used to.
Steven Killfoil:Absolutely not. So you know it's like what do you tell somebody they're freshly laid off before you tell them to join southlake focus group? You know that's the first thing I should do tell them to stop listening to tv.
Foster Williams:And you want to get out amongst people? There are plenty of jobs out there, plenty and uh, and you know you got to connect to those jobs. You connect those jobs to the people. People have the jobs.
Foster Williams:I tell everybody, as long as a people makes the determination, whether you get hired or not, then that needs to be a part of what we do. We, yes, we have a lot of technology to help us see jobs and postings and things like that. We have a lot of technology to help us see jobs and postings and things like that. But number two step that you need to take is connect with someone that might know somebody inside of that company that you're interested in going to work for, that you've applied for a job for. And that's the number one, probably number one thing that I do. This network that we're talking about, that I created 26 years ago, is the biggest one that I know in the United States. Created 26 years ago is the biggest one that I know in the united states, and so it's hard to determine a company that we don't already know. 10, 15, 20. You got some big companies. We might know 50, 60 people that work there that are out of this network yeah, it's just amazing, um, how well connected they are.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, yeah, they, they do an amazing work. I, I absolutely was really blessed to be a part of that, that whole course, and then I finally decided, uh, okay, corporate doesn't want me anymore, so I started my own that's what I did job so and it's worked great it's worked wonderful
Steven Killfoil:we love it. I've got this podcast and I've do a whole bunch of other things that I was never able to do before, when I was working a 9-to-5 job. I would not have been able to do this or be Santa Claus. I like being Santa.
Foster Williams:You do a pretty good Santa. I would imagine I'm going to get a chance to see that.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, you come out to the Christmas market Definitely and we'll have some fun definitely.
Foster Williams:We're getting nigh unto that time. That's what my dad was a pastor. He used to say nigh unto that time Nigh.
Steven Killfoil:Unto that time, okay, well, like you said, southlake Focus Group is definitely a place. You want to get into that group and you want to network, network, network.
Foster Williams:Absolutely Just be yourself. You'll meet people that you'll have an affinity for, and you just start talking, like me and Stephen did.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, absolutely Definitely. Okay. Well, let's talk about the job search itself, because a lot of folks still think it's about that scrolling the job boards. You know you got to be on linkedin. You got and, yes, you do have to be on linkedin and you got to make sure your linkedin page looks like a business, professional looking page and not your facebook page. That's right. Um, yeah, and those guys at southlake Focus Group help you do exactly that Right. They got me squared away. I got mine lined up, looking good and running great. I actually have developed a listening audience by pushing my episodes into LinkedIn as well.
Foster Williams:Exactly.
Steven Killfoil:And I've got people listening to me overseas.
Foster Williams:Well, what a better place. You know, if Job Seeker is what we're talking about today, my goodness, what a better place, what a better tool than LinkedIn to identify companies that are hiring and identify people that you might want to connect with and build a relationship with. That's my number one word in JobSeeker Absolutely.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, I mean it's crazy. So what are some of the things that people should do in in this job searching criteria? What, what would you recommend?
Foster Williams:there are a number of tools. One of them is you get out amongst other people and let it flow. You talk and you will meet. We will teach you how to sit at a table and meet other people that are looking for jobs and everybody knows somebody and you explain to those people what it is. You do what it is you're looking for. Make it as simple as possible. If you start using all these acronyms and stuff, if the people you're talking to are not in your area of expertise, they're not going to know all the acronyms are. So explain all of that stuff and what's important for you and what's important that you know. You need to let companies know that you have experience in and the fact that you're coming to their company and you bring ideas with you Absolutely.
Steven Killfoil:And one one challenge that a lot of us guys have come across is overcoming this ageism. Oh yeah, and it's going huge, Even in my wife's company where she works no-transcript.
Foster Williams:Most of the time you guys will be surprised. Most of the time they can't do that. We bring and I say we people like Steve and I, we didn't just kind of get out of school, we've got a little bit of experience we bring that experience. We know how to get and sit in that chair and make it work in ways that maybe our managers at the company didn't even know were possible to do. I didn't ever think about doing that, and so that's why we make sometimes the big bucks.
Steven Killfoil:Yes, absolutely. We make sometimes the big bucks yes, absolutely. And and the the one one thing that I really liked about the south lake focus group was you actually had a group that came in and they sat down. You tell them what you were applying for so you were.
Steven Killfoil:You were basically preparing yourself for the interview and this panel. They're familiar the. The problem with most companies is they'll take and grab this guy out of this department, this gal out of this department and this guy over here and this gal over there, throw them together and say, okay, we want you to interview this guy for this position. It still works that way, all four of them.
Steven Killfoil:They have no idea, so they look at the paper and they go okay, he's replying for the it department and he's going to be um, what is this? A network guardian or a knock-off? Okay, it says not right so we're going to interview, but they don't know what network operation.
Foster Williams:They didn't even know you existed until five minutes before that interview. When you walk in the room Precisely, most of the interviewers are ill-prepared to sit and talk to you about what's going on. They haven't had time to coagulate, if you would, with the hiring manager of the department that they want you to go to work for.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, it's funny, or they just got handed the paper 15 minutes before you walked into the door to sit down for the interview. That's right. They're really, really, really ill-prepared.
Foster Williams:Oh, 15 minutes, man. They got a lot of time, yeah.
Steven Killfoil:So it's absolutely amazing what these companies are still practicing. And then they wonder why they're having a hard time retaining yes, good employees or finding them. Well, you know, they could structurally bone up that part of the interview process and maybe they could, uh, avoid a few hiccups along the way yeah, we've got, we've.
Foster Williams:we've had so much technology move in on what we do. It's not enough time in the day to get your job done. This technology, back at the inference of this technology was supposed to make your job better, but it actually. You move so fast, you're able to get things done so quickly. It creates other things that needs to be done and at the end of the day, you're like man, I worked a whole day and I still got a whole lot of work to do, absolutely.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, it's kind of almost scary it is.
Foster Williams:It is scary. I am a long time recruiter and uh, and yeah, it's scary most recruiters are overworked. They, uh, the companies, because companies now here's the dynamic guys companies are there to make money and what they do is they use us. I don't I hate to say use, but that's what's happening. We have the expertise to do the, the, the critical little things that need to be done in order to get this done, to serve a client or to produce a product that we're selling, and so we get so busy doing that it's not enough time to do this. To do that, the other Somebody's come along. We need to hire somebody to do this. I want to get who's going to interview this person, who knows what it is that we need to be looking for, to know what to dig out of this person that's interviewing.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, and don't even get me started on the job descriptions. Oh God, they don't even fit.
Foster Williams:A lot of them are trash.
Steven Killfoil:Well, it looked like they've been cut and pasted off of something off the Internet, and a lot of them are trash. Well, it looks like they've been cut and pasted off of something off the internet.
Foster Williams:And a lot of them have DOD. I'm sorry. I've spent a lot of time with DOD and aerospace and guys. We have that problem. Oh my goodness, we have some job descriptions that are 20 years old and we haven't put the details into it to let someone know. This is what I need to have done.
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, they're still wanting you to put the incandescent light bulb on the board with the number five moon nut. That's it. And you're like, where do you get a number five moon nut?
Speaker 1:I don't know what is a number five moon nut, they don't even use those anymore.
Steven Killfoil:No, yeah. So why is that in the description? Right right, it's funny, but it's sad at the same time. It is, yeah so. So basically, you don't want. You, just you get laid off. You don't want to sit around in your pajamas hoping that indycom is magically gonna hand you that six-figure salary. Okay, although at Walgreens you can do that, isn't that right? They say it's in a perfect world.
Foster Williams:Well, I'm still looking for that perfect world.
Steven Killfoil:I know I haven't found that store yet that can do that. But man, that'd be nice. Sit around all day in the PJs, yeah.
Foster Williams:And guys, remember, those PJs are not going to go with you at the door when it's time to go to work, but don't forget that you have them on too, exactly because we got zoom and these other blue jeans and teams and all this technology that we use to interview people. Now they'll be sitting at the house. Well, there's certain things that you need to know when you're going to interview. You want to be comfortable, you know. You want to be in a place where you can think. You know you don't want to have a mirror behind you because you may have decided not to wear pants. You're just gonna wear a shirt and a jacket, yeah, and you don't want folks seeing what they're not supposed to see. So we don't need to be next to a window that's got a lot of sunlight coming through it and watching everything out. We don't need mirrors around and behind us and all that kind of thing. Close, close the door so the kitty cat won't come in there and walk across.
Steven Killfoil:And jump on the keyboard and disconnect you. Yeah, yeah, so you cover all of this in different training classes? Yes, at the South Lake Focus Group, this network has every component that you guys imagine.
Foster Williams:We'll teach you how to interview. We'll teach you what your resume needs to look like, the formats that work on the ATS systems and all of that sort of thing, and the attitude that needs to go with someone that's trying to sell themselves to a company. Hey, I am the one you need to hire. But if you look like this and you barely get your words out of your mouth, they're not going to hire you If you're. What is itbie downer or daniel downer?
Steven Killfoil:yeah, that doesn't work too good. No, yep. So this is where the south lake focus group really really shines, right yeah, and I gotta throw frisco connect.
Foster Williams:This coming tuesday in frisco was 15 years ago. I created a group called frisco connect and it is is the South Lake Focus Group, the premium networking group over on the Dallas side. Now South Lake serves both. It serves Fort Worth and Dallas. Frisco does too, but Frisco is in Frisco and that's over on the North Dallas side of the quadrant if you want to look at it like that.
Foster Williams:And we will be there. Tuesday 9 o'clock in the morning. Guys Go to FriscoConnectorg and you will see our speaker that's going to be there and you know what time to show up and all that stuff and look for Foster.
Steven Killfoil:Yes, definitely look for Foster, the guy with the big beautiful grin. Man, I'll have a big beautiful grin and I got a big mouth, so you guys want to have me, but I really don't need in the microphone oh, man, yeah, they have all the all the bells and whistles that the south lake focus group have over there, right, the networking opportunities that you got, the practical training that we were talking about.
Foster Williams:And we have a theme that we covered each meeting. We bring in a speaker that's been in that arena forever and that's what he does and she does, and we have those people give us the gory details on why things work the way they do. Tuesday guys is going to be. Why is it taking companies so long to make a decision to hire people and why is it so many interviews going on for one job, when it used to be maybe two, maybe three interviews A company might be making? I know a person has been through nine interviews and still didn't have the job right now.
Steven Killfoil:So why is?
Foster Williams:all this stuff? What's generating all of this stuff? What's going on? And the speaker we're going to have is Kurt Vandermatter. He is in the Forbes top five recruiters in the whole United States and a tremendous guy to listen to. You'll get into it and you'll be there, and we have question and answer as well. So after we bring things up, those things will generate questions in your head. You will have an opportunity to ask hey, why? This. Why that?
Steven Killfoil:definitely so. That's this coming to. This is coming to you all right guys.
Foster Williams:Second of september.
Steven Killfoil:As you're listening to this, today, Monday, Tuesday is tomorrow, so you need to go. What? What's the address?
Foster Williams:it is now you caught me. I normally throw that address out there. We are on legendary drive in frisco, which is right off of lebanon parkway over there, and our address eludes me right. I can't pull it out of my head and I say it all the time yeah, oh, my goodness I must be nervous. You guys were listening to me that's over there.
Steven Killfoil:Um, that's over there by my friend's uh grocery store called the Euro Deli Too.
Foster Williams:Oh okay, it's at Stonebriar Community Church. You guys, now I think everybody has google you can google up Stonebriar, you can just go to stonebriar. com and it will give you what you're looking for address times, all that sort of stuff excellent.
Steven Killfoil:So be there or be square, I mean come on.
Foster Williams:I can't believe, I can't think of the address.
Foster Williams:I'm showing my age Steve
Steven Killfoil:But you have accountability, you've got emotional support, you got brothers and sisters. They're in the same bucket. You're in, yeah, and some that have been there done that, and they're back again. So I mean you're not alone, yeah don't ever feel like you're alone because you're not alone.
Foster Williams:At the beginning of the meeting I like to tell everybody what makes up these and some of the people, some of the wonderful servants in this network that make this network what it is, because there's nothing in this network that you can't go to to find out. Each and every little component, every little thought process that you have about your job search, you can find an answer for so both these groups southlake focus group and frisco connect, frisco connect.
Steven Killfoil:So they're kind of like a career gym right, pretty much. Yeah, you show. So both of these groups Southlake Focus Group and Frisco Connect, frisco Connect. So they're kind of like a career gym right, pretty much. Yeah, you show up, you work out your resume, flex your networking muscles.
Foster Williams:Learn how to do your LinkedIn profile all kinds of stuff.
Steven Killfoil:And avoid the donuts.
Foster Williams:Yeah, that's probably a smart idea If you got one of these things like I got called a belly down here, but they do have donuts, oh man. So here's the deal, guys you bring when you get a job, and everybody does. In 26 years I've not seen anybody come through this network that has not landed a job. It may take a while for some, some it may. Last week we had a lady that showed up and two weeks later she had a job. So, uh, we like to bring donuts when you get a job. Now we have a little funny thing and it's only funny to us. It is corny, is all get out. But if you get a contract, some of you guys have good areas of expertise and a company might want to hire you on contract and I get excited because I can charge them a little bit more money for me contractually because it's not a full-time job. Well, if you get a contract, you bring a donut hole because it's not a whole job. There you go. There's the lameness of it all. Right there, guys.
Steven Killfoil:Okay, yeah, I remember that.
Foster Williams:Yeah, yeah, you remember that don't you?
Steven Killfoil:All right? Well, let's talk a little bit about the people behind it. Who makes this group work?
Foster Williams:the people behind it. Who makes this group work? Well, a number of people that have been in areas of executive spots, like myself, recruiters, people in HR, pete Hernandez and I. Every first and third Wednesday of every month, we have an HR focus group that was started by recruiters me and other recruiters and we like for folks to come in and meet with us because we recruiters we're the ones trying to find people to hire and the HR people that are behind that scene. So we we focus a lot on HR jobs, things like that. Recruiters, you meet the recruiters, what are y'all looking for? Ok, you know we might have 50 60 people one at one of my meetings uh, on zoom is this meeting so you can be in new york, you can be in berlin, germany, and you can see, and we do have people that join us from all over the world.
Foster Williams:If you're not already asleep, you know time zones are involved in this thing
Steven Killfoil:Yeah, so you're kind of like the Avengers, but instead of saving the world
Foster Williams:Saving the careers, saving the people.
Steven Killfoil:All right, there you go. No capes, just resumes and PowerPoints.
Foster Williams:Uh-huh, uh-huh Right, and some of us might work a cape for comical purposes.
Steven Killfoil:Right? Well, Foster, give our listeners some encouragement because, let's be real, being laid off can feel like the end of the world.
Foster Williams:Guys, I'm going to tell you something to be excited about. Right now is a time of the year where we're about to go into the fourth quarter and companies have to get things done before they lose their budgets and all that sort of thing. So a lot of jobs are being posted. You see a lot of jobs out on the LinkedIn and zip recruiter and indeed, and all these places where we find that companies post their jobs. Now there's a lot of activity because this year there have been slowdowns along the way, because the companies get concerned about what's going on in Washington DC, all of these type of things. But we have just completed a time of slowdown, so companies cannot afford to slow down for too long because they're going to lose their customers and they're going to not be making the products that they need to be making.
Foster Williams:The people are buying in the money, guys. Corporations are concerned about bringing that money in the door Now on our side. When I say our, I mean job search. It's survival now for us. So that's the dynamic. So this network has been created for people to get the help that they need to get to get through, be the one that the company decides they're going to hire. There may be 30 other people that applied for the same job usually is hire. There may be 30 other people that applied for the same job Usually is. And we recruiters, we have to go through all of that stuff to get down to the number of people that are a fit. And if you have a job description in the network, you will meet people like Pete Hernandez and other ones that will teach you what your resume needs to look like to let these companies know you have what they're looking for to step into that position.
Steven Killfoil:That is amazing. I love that. And if you're listening to this and you're Pajamas and it's noon on a Tuesday, shame on you. You should have got up early in the morning, brushed your teeth and got over there to. Frisco yeah, drink that chlorophyll. Join a networking group, so tell our listeners out there how they can get in touch with the Southlake Focus Group. What's the website?
Foster Williams:You know what? If you guys go to southlakefocusgroup. com, it's a wonderful website. It'll show you everything you need to know about Southlake. Where are we, what time does it start, what does it look like when we get in there? And the same with Frisco connect. org. You guys go to Frisco connect,org. We tape all of our presenters. We have a number of presenters of that have been recorded. And when you go into the media section of frisco connect. org, you can look at these presentations. So if you're in New York because at Frisco we only meet in person, we don't have the Zoom component anymore the church made the decision to get people involved, get them out, get them doing what they need to be doing instead of hiding behind technology. And guys, you can see wonderful presentations from people that have brought things like uh, how to utilize AI in your job search. You know how to. What's the ATS system all about? Why do you cut like? We're going to talk about this?
Foster Williams:come to just coming this, coming to you tomorrow to, for, yeah, for the folks who listen to this, on Monday it'll be tomorrow, and so, uh, uh, Kurt Vonermatter is going to come out and tell us how companies work. Why does it work the way that it's working? Why am I not hearing? What do I need to do to let these folks know? We need to have a conversation, because you posted a job and I do exactly what it is in that job that you're looking to do. So, in this network is every component of what you guys need to know to get where you need to get.
Steven Killfoil:Absolutely, and hey, Foster, I want to thank you for joining us today South Lake Focus Group and Frisco Connect is like an amazing place for anyone that's navigating a layout. Yes, absolutely. And to our listeners, if you've been laid off, don't lose hope. Take a breath, get strategic and don't do it alone. Um, get involved in one, two or both groups. It won't hurt, it'll do nothing, but help you get ahead faster, absolutely you guys.
Foster Williams:A lot of people get out there and they get so enthralled, they get so excited about what they see, they want to become a part of, and they don't even want to go to work. Absolutely so we have volunteers all over the place that help people find what they need to find in the network to get those answers to those questions that they have.
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Steven Killfoil:Absolutely Well, you have a great day.
Foster Williams:Steve, thanks for having me here. We need to tell people there's somewhere to go. There are about 200,000 active job seekers in this network and there are more people out there that don't even know anything about the network. And there's a place for people to go, and my job is to let people know that it's there and then, when they get there, I show them how it works.
Steven Killfoil:Absolutely Well, you take care and thanks for coming on the show.
Foster Williams:Thanks for having me.
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